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Simon Goss is a listener who reached out and J thought it would be fun to get to know him on the show. They discuss Simons background in football, growing up in the inner city of Los Angeles, why he spent four years in the Marines, the massage that changed everything, becoming a massage therapist and getting into yoga, overcoming toxic masculinity, dad stuff, being sensitive and having the courage to be vulnerable, how yoga helps people, and the shared experience and inquiry that connects the two of them through the podcast.