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Paul Langland, choreographer, dancer, and teacher who for the last 46 years has been an innovator in dance and performance, talks about his work exploring human experience and creative expression. They discuss J's time studying with Paul at the Experimental Theater Wing in the 90's, the origins of contact improvisation and the listening skills it requires, how Paul came to work with Meredith Monk and Ping Chong, Mary Overly first and six viewpoints, Alan Wayne technique, and finding virtuosity in performance and life.